Thursday

Drinks: Doric Arch

• jaapb
• alnsn
• another fellow named Alex
• gavan

Friday

Dinner: Edinboro Castle

• jaapb
• mlelstv
• spz
• prlw1
• wiedi
• sborrill

Saturday

• Calum
• Youri
• abs
• justin
• jaapb
• alnsn
• bsiegert
• mlelstv
• tron
• spz
• prlw1
• wiedi
• Daniel
• sborrill
• morr

Benny Siegert: "BulkTracker"

• BulkTracker is WIP to parse pkgsrc-bulk reports and present them in an organized way
• Uses lots of trendy stuff:
  • Google App Engine
  • Ruby, Node.js, Twitter Bootstrap
  • side comment: pkgsrc is missing some trendy stuff
• Source code

Side discussion with Youri and Calum

• how can we induce people to choose pkgsrc over Homebrew?
  • most people are looking for an OS-specific package manager
  • they don't realize they should look for cross-platform
  • I've learned that I should
  • we need to attract OS X users on their own terms
    • what if we managed /Applications, from source or not?
  • likewise for other platforms
  • what if we branded pkgsrc differently for each platform?
  • also concentrate on binary package experience
  • pkgin is a real nice user experience
• how are people finding their OS X binary packages?
  • screenshots they post on /r/unixporn

Lightning talks

David Brownlee: "Pretty tabular data without much effort"

• jQuery
• example
• see also http://sync.absd.org/www

Youri Mouton: pkgsrc for new developers

• used NetBSD and pkgin without knowing what pkgsrc was
• saw pkgin supported on other OSes (e.g., Minix)
• and OS X (a main OS he uses)
• started manually making packages for pkgin, not realizing
• then understood it was pkgsrc being used to make packages
• a few months doing bulk builds
• there isn't a tutorial on how to start as a pkgsrc developer
• submitted ports to pkgsrc-wip
• people usually find MacPorts, Homebrew, Fink, and then maybe pkgin
• this is too bad, they ought to be finding us
• Youri and Calum's project: http://saveosx.org
  • they're doing gpg-signed packages
• people ask "where can I find documentation" and there isn't a great answer
• writing clear, clean docs for new users and developers would be great
• we all think jperkin's writeups and docs on this are terrific
  • can we have them?
• tron: bootstrap experience for MacPorts may be nicer
  • schmonz: should be possible to build a Mac .pkg from bootstrap
• abs: three target demographics:
  • use binary packages
  • build from source, use options, don't want to fix things
  • developers
• this underscores the need for user-editable wiki
• design patterns for pkgsrc: e.g., how to fetch from a certain git commit
• hey, let's take some time as a group and merge pkgsrc.org into wiki.n.o/pkgsrc/

Jaap Boender: OCaml packages

• OCaml has a build system akin to Haskell's "cabal"
• would like to factor it out, not sure how best to do that
• (I was busy prepping a talk)

Justin Cormack: cross-compiling

• with qemu, non-native binaries can run from ./configure and the like
• syscall emulation
• (I'm still prepping a talk)

[anonymous]: Mac OS X powerpc

• GCC>4.4 doesn't build with XCode
• he's managed to get up to 4.7 now
• next thing GCC 4.8 and then he'll be able to build stuff
• (I'm still prepping)

Matthias Scheler: world's best ISP

• XKCD 806
• (still prepping)

Sebastian Wiedenroth: merging trivial fixes

• (still prepping)

S.P. Zeidler: packaging for TNF servers

• to be installed on TNF servers, it must be in pkgsrc
• if it might ever run as root, it must be built on certain protected systems
• pkg_chk_(8) for seeing what needs to be built
• packages are built in pkg_comp(8) with sets matching arch and NetBSD version
• then they're transferred to the destination systems and pkg_add(8)ed
• vulnerabilities detected with pkg_admin audit
• (missed some details)

Stephen Borrill: building products with NetBSD and pkgsrc

• based on 2007 EuroBSDCon presentation
• thin clients

Amitai Schlair: "pkgsrc design goals"

• blah blah blah
• slides forthcoming

Dinner: Gourmet Garden

• jperkin
• Calum
• Youri
• abs
• justin
• jaapb
• alnsn
• bsiegert and wife and cute kid
• mlelstv
• tron
• spz
• prlw1
• wiedi
• Daniel
• sborrill
• morr

Sunday

Hackathon

Ideas

Integrate joerg's C wrappers

1. hg clone ssh://ftp.netbsd.org/~joerg/cwrapper
2. Figure out how to get pkgsrc to use them
3. Commit on a branch
4. Do one bulk build on HEAD and one on your branch
5. Let's see how it went

Fix pkgtools/pkg_regress tests

1. The one that was still passing, do we believe that? Can we make it break?
2. The ones that are failing, can we understand them and make them pass?
3. Let's think of something else worth testing and write a new test for it
4. Do we feel good about adding more such tests and encouraging everyone to do so? If not, what do we need to improve before we do that?

Afterward

Blog posts

• Youri Mouton